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post Nov 26 2012, 09:06 AM
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Hello
does any body know the part # or profile for the hifax for a 2010 FST IQ Touring sled. 136"

I do not need the white polaris ones as they are pricey.
Aftermarket Black ones are perferable if possible.

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post Nov 26 2012, 10:17 AM
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QUOTE(GSXRMyers @ Nov 26 2012, 10:06 AM) *
Hello
does any body know the part # or profile for the hifax for a 2010 FST IQ Touring sled. 136"

I do not need the white polaris ones as they are pricey.
Aftermarket Black ones are perferable if possible.

Cheers
Scott

I learned a long time ago that it is worth the extra $$ for OEM sliders. They resist heating up better than aftermarkets. Just my $.02

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post Nov 26 2012, 11:53 AM
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dennis kirk selles garland slides, garland is a oem slide maker , been told they make the yammie slides, not by dk, but by a yammie dealer , and one other sled maker, not sure who, got a set ordered for my 07 iq 600ho, guess ill find out how they work, ive always been a believer in oem slides only, but poo only makes white now, gotta have red, lol


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post Nov 26 2012, 12:24 PM
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QUOTE(westernstar00 @ Nov 26 2012, 12:53 PM) *
dennis kirk selles garland slides, garland is a oem slide maker , been told they make the yammie slides, not by dk, but by a yammie dealer , and one other sled maker, not sure who, got a set ordered for my 07 iq 600ho, guess ill find out how they work, ive always been a believer in oem slides only, but poo only makes white now, gotta have red, lol


Yes they only have the Poo white ones. was hopn for a black/graphite set as they IMO last longer but still need a profile or modle ##.
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post Nov 26 2012, 12:30 PM
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QUOTE(GSXRMyers @ Nov 26 2012, 01:24 PM) *
Yes they only have the Poo white ones. was hopn for a black/graphite set as they IMO last longer but still need a profile or modle ##.
Cheers

i ordered red ones yesterday, and they have the black graphite one also on there website , i ordered 57 " for a iq, 10 turbo dragon, hope i get the right ones, lol . the part no. should be 23570000112 for the black hi-performane ones[graphite] from dk,

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post Nov 26 2012, 12:44 PM
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Red Garland ones here. $26 each shipped on ebay. Plenty long enough for a 136.


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post Nov 26 2012, 01:09 PM
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It's been my experience that the white ones last longer than the colored and black and i beleive it is due to the pigment in the color that makes them softer and more affected by heat.This makes sense to me.

On a side note but gives evidence of similar findings if you use colored zip ties for high heat applications they will melt and or crack before the white ones.I did some experimenting on headers on RC nitro boat engine headers and the white zip ties will outlast any colored zip tie by the same manufacturer.I was told this from a supplier and it turned out to be true.


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post Nov 26 2012, 01:18 PM
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QUOTE(terrym @ Nov 26 2012, 02:09 PM) *
It's been my experience that the white ones last longer than the colored and black and i beleive it is due to the pigment in the color that makes them softer and more affected by heat.This makes sense to me.

On a side note but gives evidence of similar findings if you use colored zip ties for high heat applications they will melt and or crack before the white ones.I did some experimenting on headers on RC nitro boat engine headers and the white zip ties will outlast any colored zip tie by the same manufacturer.I was told this from a supplier and it turned out to be true.


Well thats some good handy info there. White ones they are then.
Thanks for all the help guys...
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post Nov 26 2012, 01:21 PM
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QUOTE(GSXRMyers @ Nov 26 2012, 10:06 AM) *
Hello
does any body know the part # or profile for the hifax for a 2010 FST IQ Touring sled. 136"

I do not need the white polaris ones as they are pricey.
Aftermarket Black ones are perferable if possible.

Cheers
Scott

Garland located in Maine is Polaris's supplier and their profile #24 is for M-10 and profile #23 is for Edge. They only make 2 profiles for Polaris


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post Nov 26 2012, 02:08 PM
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QUOTE(Juiced @ Nov 26 2012, 01:44 PM) *
Red Garland ones here. $26 each shipped on ebay. Plenty long enough for a 136.

$19.95 dennis kirk shipped [ red]..... they show and have part no. for colored and black graphite for the iq skid


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Im trying the hyperfaxes from hrp..... Going to find out if there worth the $


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QUOTE(Zornigvw @ Nov 26 2012, 04:31 PM) *
Im trying the hyperfaxes from hrp..... Going to find out if there worth the $

over the years i have tryed them all, NEVER found anything that worked better or lasted longer then the oem poo slides, yes including the hyperfaxes, had them on my 03 xcr1100 , they worked well, just as the oem ones did, 120 + mph for 2-3 miles across the lake , but couldnt see any differance, except the price! iam told that garland makes the poo slides thats why ill try them, its just a color change thing, its gotta be pretty right, lol . if you want to test slides , get a yammi srx, thats a good test sled for slides, i have seen them eat a set in less then half a day, riding right next to me,

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QUOTE(westernstar00 @ Nov 26 2012, 05:48 PM) *
over the years i have tryed them all, NEVER found anything that worked better or lasted longer then the oem poo slides, yes including the hyperfaxes, had them on my 03 xcr1100 , they worked well, just as the oem ones did, 120 + mph for 2-3 miles across the lake , but couldnt see any differance, except the price! iam told that garland makes the poo slides thats why ill try them, its just a color change thing, its gotta be pretty right, lol . if you want to test slides , get a yammi srx, thats a good test sled for slides, i have seen them eat a set in less then half a day, riding right next to me,

Ughhh damn thats not promising.


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post Nov 26 2012, 06:55 PM
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There is a pretty simple pattern to Polaris snowmobile sliders in the past 10 years:

If the suspension uses 5.62" diameter bogie wheels, it should have the Thick hifax.
All IQ, Fusions and Rush/Pro-Ride, come factory equipped with these wheels. Also used on all full size PRO-X, Edge Touring M12 and Edge SKS/Switchback/RMK.

At this time, the Polaris thick sliders only come in white, but they are available in two lengths:

5521632 white 0.45/61" $20US (up to 144 IQ Switchback)

5521633 white 0.45/74" for up to 163" $22US

The thickness below the slide rail slot is 0.45" or 30/64" Most sleds use the 61" length, some RMK may need the 74" length. IQ 144 Switchbacks need at least a 58" long slider.

This is Garland profile # 24
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The earlier sliders used on many sleds that use the GenII/Edge profile have the same slide rail profile, but are thinner, for use with 5.35" bogie wheels. This slider is 0.34" or 22/64" thick below the slide rail slot, which is 1/8" thinner than the newer style.

This is Garland profile # 23

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The older 2 strokes that used the Xtra-10 / Xtra-12 suspension, with the L shaped cross-section use Garland profile # 15

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post Nov 26 2012, 08:23 PM
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QUOTE(ExcursionPSD @ Nov 26 2012, 07:55 PM) *
There is a pretty simple pattern to Polaris snowmobile sliders in the past 10 years:

If the suspension uses 5.62" diameter bogie wheels, it should have the Thick hifax.
All IQ, Fusions and Rush/Pro-Ride, come factory equipped with these wheels. Also all full size PRO-X, Edge Touring M12 and Edge SKS/Switchback/RMK.

At this time, the Polaris thick sliders only come in white, but they are available in two lengths:

5521632 white 0.45/61" $20US (up to 144 IQ Switchback)

5521633 white 0.45/74" for up to 163" $22US

The thickness below the slide rail slot is 0.45" or 30/64" Most sleds use the 61" length, some RMK may need the 74" length. IQ 144 Switchbacks need at least a 58" long slider.

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The earlier sliders used on many sleds that use the GenII/Edge profile have the same slide rail profile, but are thinner, for use with 5.35" bogie wheels. This slider is 0.34" or 22/64" thick, which is 1/8" thinner than the newer style.

great info, when i get the new ones from dk, ill measure them, cause they are selling the same slide for the iq as the edge, are they the thicker ones or the thinner ones? guess ill find out...

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Betting they are the thinner ones, as thicker ones on an Edge skid would almost be taller than the idler wheels...

On somewhat related note, anyone having trouble getting proper IQ hyfax from Polaris? I haven't bought new ones in a while, but a buddy is having trouble with his dealer trying to pass off thinner Edge hyfax on him as the only type available as a service part - claims the IQ part number shows it has been "replaced" by the part number used on the Edge chassis. Personally, I think the dealer is feeding him a line of BS. I'm curious if anyone else has had the same experience.


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post Nov 26 2012, 11:28 PM
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QUOTE(orville-x @ Nov 26 2012, 09:24 PM) *
Betting they are the thinner ones, as thicker ones on an Edge skid would almost be taller than the idler wheels...

On somewhat related note, anyone having trouble getting proper IQ hyfax from Polaris? I haven't bought new ones in a while, but a buddy is having trouble with his dealer trying to pass off thinner Edge hyfax on him as the only type available as a service part - claims the IQ part number shows it has been "replaced" by the part number used on the Edge chassis. Personally, I think the dealer is feeding him a line of BS. I'm curious if anyone else has had the same experience.


You are going to cross yourself up if you try to generalize too much. I can see that in your post.

The thinner hifax and 5.35" bogie wheels, came on the Edge SKID/121 SUSPENSION

BUT, several suspensions used on the Edge CHASSIS had 5.62 bogie wheels and thick slider:

Edge M12 Touring suspension use 5521632 thick slider
Edge SKS/Switchback/RMK suspensions. use 5521632 / 5521633 thick slider

Since the Edge Chassis had suspensions that used both thick slider and thin slider, There is no "the part number used on the Edge Chassis"

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post Nov 27 2012, 10:32 AM
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I had purchased a new set of black made by garland and they are thicker than the white ones from polaris.I messed one of the balck ones up while cutting it so i just put two new white ones on it from my local dealer.

Be carefull when measuring the old white ones next to the new colored non poo slides because even if you line up the holes and cut them the same length, the garland ones once wrapped up around the curve in the rails will become shorter AND will stick down below the black plastic nose blocks farther than the poo ones do.

I would suggest cutting the excess from the front of the slides, sliding them on the rail and install the screw and then cut them on the same angle as the rails in the rear AFTER they are installed and secure.

I put mine side by side after i cut the excess off the front and lined up the holes and they were too short once installed..
Now i have a set of slides for my wifes 121 track.... rolleyes.gif


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terrym,

What part number Polaris sliders did you have?

My post explains that Polaris makes two thicknesses of slider, it's not enough to say "The white ones from Polaris". The measurements are in the post also.

I always run a Phillips screwdriver thru the mounting hole, in the old and new sliders. Then I clamp near that end in a vise, with the top of the old slider facing the back of the new slider (this takes the curve out), before marking where the new one should be cut. (front and back).

Garland makes the Polaris sliders. All the sliders you had were made by Garland.

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QUOTE(ExcursionPSD @ Nov 26 2012, 11:28 PM) *
You are going to cross yourself up if you try to generalize too much. I can see that in your post.

The thinner hifax and 5.35" bogie wheels, came on the Edge SKID/121 SUSPENSION

BUT, several suspensions used on the Edge CHASSIS had 5.62 bogie wheels and thick slider:

Edge M12 Touring suspension use 5521632 thick slider
Edge SKS/Switchback/RMK suspensions. use 5521632 / 5521633 thick slider

Since the Edge Chassis had suspensions that used both thick slider and thin slider, There is no "the part number used on the Edge Chassis"


Thanks for the correction - the "devil is in the details" as they say. I've seen the hyfax the dealer gave him - they are "thin" profile hyfax, typical of a 121" Edge skid, wrong for the 121" IQ skid (and the Pro-X skid he is buying them for). However, you bring up a point I hadn't considered - that the part number may show up as being used on an Edge chassis of some sort and the parts guy may be making the assumption that ALL Edge skids use the same profile hyfax.


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'11 FST 121", PS 2012 flash, laced boost box, alternator underdrive pulley, 120/340 primary spring, 11-68 weights (tips trimmed), stock secondary (P2), 25/44 gearing
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