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post May 16 2012, 06:02 PM
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Can the driveshaft bearing near the speedo sensor be replaced "in place?"

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post May 16 2012, 08:09 PM
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No, but the track driveshaft just pulls out of the chaincase without opening it up.

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post May 17 2012, 08:26 AM
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QUOTE(tulattavik @ May 16 2012, 09:02 PM) *
Can the drive shaft bearing near the speedo sensor be replaced "in place?"

When you drop your suspension check out the rear shock, they should be recharged every year or two


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post May 17 2012, 02:19 PM
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I just replaced it "in Place!" YES!!! Much easier than suspension removal.
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post Jun 20 2012, 09:17 PM
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QUOTE(tulattavik @ May 17 2012, 03:19 PM) *
I just replaced it "in Place!" YES!!! Much easier than suspension removal.

I have to replace mine this year. How were you able to pry that bearing off without removing the driveshaft?


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post Jun 21 2012, 09:48 AM
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QUOTE(SnowChaser @ Jun 20 2012, 10:17 PM) *
I have to replace mine this year. How were you able to pry that bearing off without removing the driveshaft?

Hammer and wedge punch...it came off easily.
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post Jun 22 2012, 10:26 AM
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QUOTE(SnowChaser @ Jun 20 2012, 11:17 PM) *
I have to replace mine this year. How were you able to pry that bearing off without removing the driveshaft?

You need to remove the driveshaft from the sled, then remove bearing while on bench.


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post Jun 23 2012, 03:34 PM
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Do any of you guys know the exact size of that bearing so I can get one cheaper localy. Thanks


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post Jun 24 2012, 09:32 AM
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QUOTE(Its-your-story @ Jun 23 2012, 05:34 PM) *
Do any of you guys know the exact size of that bearing so I can get one cheaper localy. Thanks

http://www.polarisfiles.com/forum/index.ph...ost&p=18516


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post Nov 22 2012, 03:50 AM
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QUOTE(tulattavik @ Jun 21 2012, 09:48 AM) *
Hammer and wedge punch...it came off easily.


Well done.

I removed left side Driveshaft bearing in place last February. We were in Big Bay Michigan, on a 7 day saddlebag trip. As we left the motel to go to the Thunder Bay Inn for supper, I heard a funny click, looked at my speedometer and saw the speedo in analog mode, sweep the needle back and forth once, and then go to 0. I guessed what was wrong.

After dinner, back at the motel, we rolled her on the right side. I could move the driveshaft up and down enough on the left side, to make some noise at top and bottom, so I knew it was the bearing. We changed it with just the hand tools we had on the trip.

I put a block between the driveshaft and the rear suspension, and then released all track tension, so it wouldn't be pulled back, and let the sled sit right on it's track and skis. Removed enough stuff on the left side, so I could get to the 3 nuts that hold the housing to the tunnel, next the three that hold the bearing flangette to the housing, and then pulled the housing off. A few ball bearings and the outer race fell out. (At this point my buddies believed me.)

I used a water pump pliers/Channel Lock to twist and remove the inner race from the driveshaft. The new bearing (we had one with us) was a tight fit on the shaft, but a manual press fit, no pounding or hydraulic press required. I laid the bearing and gasket in the housing, oriented the grease hole in the outer bearing race close to the grease zerk in the housing. Then dropped the flangette over them, and snugged the nuts to hold the bearing in place. I then put the housing assembly carefully back over the driveshaft, tightened the housing nuts and then the flangette nuts. Put the left side stuff back in, readjusted the track tension to where I had marked it, and removed the block between the driveshaftj and suspension. Put the tools back in the cargo rack, and backed her out. It was barely a 2 beer job.

The Vehicle Speed Sensor (VSS) was trashed from being attacked by the ball bearings, so no speedo or odometer for the last few days. That's how you keep a sled low mileage!

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post Nov 22 2012, 06:02 AM
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Now thats a real MacGyver story!


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post Jan 24 2013, 05:36 PM
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QUOTE(Snobeeler @ Jun 22 2012, 11:26 AM) *
You need to remove the driveshaft from the sled, then remove bearing while on bench.


tongue.gif I guess that you don't have to remove the driveshaft based on the other posts. biggrin.gif

I like the OP have limited tools and skills but not a lot of $$$ to pay the local dealer for simple repairs we can do at home in our garage. I searched for this because I don't have the skill or tools to deal with springs, tension issues and that would include removing the suspension system. Unfortunately the guy I bought this sled from did not grease the drive shaft area and now I have bad bearing which of course caused my speedo to go bezerk.

I don't have a bench so I appreciate when people can help other than to tell me I have to do something I don't have skills or tools for. A prime example is my local dealer wanted $250 to change HyFax which I could not afford. I searched the forums and even found a you tube video showing how I can do it myself without removing track. Bought a $28 slide hammer on e-bay and Sliders for $50 and did it for a thrid of what I would have been charged. If I could have only done it by taking suspension off or track off I would not have even tried. Some of us like me are your white collar by day lightweight gear head on the weekend and truly appreciate what has been shared.

My replacement bearing is on order and I will report back how my in place repair goes.
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post Jan 24 2013, 09:37 PM
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Be aware that my pal Snobeeler, is correct.

If you run into a bearing that is pressed strongly onto the driveshaft, you will have to work at it to get the race off. Others have used wedge and punch, some have left the flangette bolted to the housing, and pried the housing away from the tunnel. You want to be careful, the housing is not very thick, it would be easy to bend it.

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It is shameful that a dealer would charge $250 to change hifax. If you angle the sides at the back end of the hifax, before you install them, it makes it easier to pull/drive them thru the window in the track when removing. I also open up 1 window on each side of the track, by cutting out some rubber, to make the removal and insertion of hifax easier. Always release track tension at the start, you should readjust it when you are done anyway.

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post Jan 25 2013, 09:10 AM
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i know this is a loaded question but how many miles (if you keep them greased) can you get out of the bearings?


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post Jan 25 2013, 09:52 AM
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QUOTE(dogcop @ Jan 25 2013, 10:10 AM) *
i know this is a loaded question but how many miles (if you keep them greased) can you get out of the bearings?

Never greased my 2006 and had 9,700 miles when sold plus the bearing was in near perfect condition. Need to check the FAQ section as excessive grease fills the axle speed sensor pick-up spline and causes the sensor to malfunction. I've checked the 2006 several times but always sealed the flange cup to bearing outer race and gasket with RTV. The 2012's and possibly older do not use a bearing with the tiny holes in the outer race. RTV sealing keeps out the grit when the trails are so,so.


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post Jan 25 2013, 10:48 AM
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The 3514448 speedo side driveshaft bearing with the lube hole in the outer race, was last used on the MY11 model Turbos.


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QUOTE(ExcursionPSD @ Jan 24 2013, 10:37 PM) *
Be aware that my pal Snobeeler, is correct.

If you run into a bearing that is pressed strongly onto the driveshaft, you will have to work at it to get the race off. Others have used wedge and punch, some have left the flangette bolted to the housing, and pried the housing away from the tunnel. You want to be careful, the housing is not very thick, it would be easy to bend it.

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It is shameful that a dealer would charge $250 to change hifax. If you angle the sides at the back end of the hifax, before you install them, it makes it easier to pull/drive them thru the window in the track when removing. I also open up 1 window on each side of the track, by cutting out some rubber, to make the removal and insertion of hifax easier. Always release track tension at the start, you should readjust it when you are done anyway.


Thanks for all of the great info. Yes it is shameful. Luckily I was able to accomplish both projects today.

For the bad bearing I actually pre-sprayed from the back side of the drive shaft area with some penetrating oil to help loosen things up. I was mentally ready to have to fully remove the shaft if this didn't work. Luckily I was able to remove the old bearing pretty easily using a hammer and punch. I had read good things about All Balls so I ordered and installed their replacement bearing. Re installation was easy and painless.

Removal of the sliders using the slide hammer was as easy as the video that I saw from BK Boats and Sleds on You Tube. I did angle the hifax sliders and that worked very well also. I stored the sliders inside at room temperature prior to the installation.
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I have a 2001 700 XC with a dead speedometer and have a sneaky suspicion this is the cause. I need to confirm by looking at it but want to make sure I order the right stuff if it is.

The thread mentioned a bearing; can someone confirm 3514525 is correct and if there are any aftermarket parts that could be purchased? It also looks like I will need 3280017 (Key, Speedometer, Square). Anything else that I should get?

Thanks in advance!
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