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post Nov 26 2008, 11:12 AM
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I'm thrilled and excited to announce that, after over 1 year of hard work, I will be offering the opportunity to upgrade and reflash all 2006-2009 M7.4.4 ECU's. Over this past year, I have worked extensively with a reputable software and hardware company to gain access to the M7.4.4 internal code, Eprom, operating maps, checksum algorythm and communication protocols. The result: I now have access to the M.7.4.4 source code and Maps that define and impact engine operation and power output.

Specifically, it is now possible to change boost maps, timing maps, fuel maps and various correction maps. The reflashing process is accomplished in serial mode, through the oem digital wrench socket, or in standalone mode, working with the ECU without it being connected to the snowmobile. A modified ECU will still retain all its current protection features, like reducing timing on low octane fuel or reducing boost in case of a malfunction. It will also retain all its adaptative functions which allow for fuel correction as well as timing and wastegate control.

I intend to offer 3 different reflash stages, ranging from conservative to wild. The stage 1 (pump premium gas) reflash will only involve higher boost in continuous mode while the stage 3 reflash will involve different timing and fuel Maps as well as unlimited boost and rpm limits (100+ Octane gas). Power gains will range from 15bhp to 45bhp.

The different maps are currently being tested. Final maps will be made available only in January following extensive real world testing in the snow. Reflashing will also be available for the MSX110 and MSX150 watercrafts next June.

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post Nov 26 2008, 12:36 PM
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I predict a very busy winter of reflashing for you!!!

Oh and a profitable on to boot.

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post Nov 26 2008, 01:14 PM
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QUOTE(yayou @ Nov 26 2008, 12:12 PM) *
I'm thrilled and excited to announce that, after over 1 year of hard work, I will be offering the opportunity to upgrade and reflash all 2006-2009 M7.4.4 ECU's. Over this past year, I have worked extensively with a reputable software and hardware company to gain access to the M7.4.4 internal code, Eprom, operating maps, checksum algorythm and communication protocols. The result: I now have access to the M.7.4.4 source code and Maps that define and impact engine operation and power output.

Specifically, it is now possible to change boost maps, timing maps, fuel maps and various correction maps. The reflashing process is accomplished in serial mode, through the oem digital wrench socket, or in standalone mode, working with the ECU without it being connected to the snowmobile. A modified ECU will still retain all its current protection features, like reducing timing on low octane fuel or reducing boost in case of a malfunction. It will also retain all its adaptative functions which allow for fuel correction as well as timing and wastegate control.

I intend to offer 3 different reflash stages, ranging from conservative to wild. The stage 1 (pump premium gas) reflash will only involve higher boost in continuous mode while the stage 3 reflash will involve different timing and fuel Maps as well as unlimited boost and rpm limits (100+ Octane gas). Power gains will range from 15bhp to 45bhp.

The different maps are currently being tested. Final maps will be made available only in January following extensive real world testing in the snow. Reflashing will also be available for the MSX110 and MSX150 watercrafts next June.

Stay tuned...



Very Cool. Just so that i have this right if i take my basic 140 HP turbo and get the stage 1 flash i'd end up with approx 155 HP? Would i still have overboost? and if so where would that put the overboost at?
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post Nov 26 2008, 01:37 PM
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QUOTE(gizz @ Nov 26 2008, 02:14 PM) *
Very Cool. Just so that i have this right if i take my basic 140 HP turbo and get the stage 1 flash i'd end up with approx 155 HP? Would i still have overboost? and if so where would that put the overboost at?


Yeah, what he said. I get a lot of shit about the my "Lead Slead" FST from other riders and I'd love to shut them up!!! wink.gif


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post Nov 26 2008, 07:21 PM
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Stage 1 will allow to run the "so-called" overboost in continuous mode , not temporary.... with a 1psi boost over and above. At the same time, all ECU alarms & engine protection features will remain unchanged.


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post Nov 26 2008, 07:37 PM
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QUOTE(yayou @ Nov 26 2008, 09:21 PM) *
Stage 1 will allow to run the "so-called" overboost in continuous mode , not temporary.... with a 1psi boost over and above. At the same time, all ECU alarms & engine protection features will remain unchanged.

This is exciting to me. I was involved in "testing" those cards that get all the tv channels years ago. I learned a bit about programming then. I will be looking for stage 1 when available. Thanks for your hard work on this.


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post Nov 26 2008, 08:48 PM
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Bravo, fantastic !!!
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I'd like to know what's the current timing map at WOT if you can get it.

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QUOTE(yayou @ Nov 26 2008, 12:12 PM) *
I'm thrilled and excited to announce that, after over 1 year of hard work, I will be offering the opportunity to upgrade and reflash all 2006-2009 M7.4.4 ECU's. Over this past year, I have worked extensively with a reputable software and hardware company to gain access to the M7.4.4 internal code, Eprom, operating maps, checksum algorythm and communication protocols. The result: I now have access to the M.7.4.4 source code and Maps that define and impact engine operation and power output.

Specifically, it is now possible to change boost maps, timing maps, fuel maps and various correction maps. The reflashing process is accomplished in serial mode, through the oem digital wrench socket, or in standalone mode, working with the ECU without it being connected to the snowmobile. A modified ECU will still retain all its current protection features, like reducing timing on low octane fuel or reducing boost in case of a malfunction. It will also retain all its adaptative functions which allow for fuel correction as well as timing and wastegate control.

I intend to offer 3 different reflash stages, ranging from conservative to wild. The stage 1 (pump premium gas) reflash will only involve higher boost in continuous mode while the stage 3 reflash will involve different timing and fuel Maps as well as unlimited boost and rpm limits (100+ Octane gas). Power gains will range from 15bhp to 45bhp.

The different maps are currently being tested. Final maps will be made available only in January following extensive real world testing in the snow. Reflashing will also be available for the MSX110 and MSX150 watercrafts next June.

Stay tuned...


Yayou...this technical accomplishment is another example of your infinite passion for on going continuous improvement, to maximize the power output of the Weber engine. It's like you purchased a diamond in the rough and you've gradually shaped it into a brilliant gemstone. Your testimony of 9,000 miles of trouble free fun riding, tells the story. A huge "Thank You" for your contribution to the snowmobiling sport.


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post Nov 27 2008, 07:13 AM
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QUOTE(yayou @ Nov 26 2008, 08:21 PM) *
Stage 1 will allow to run the "so-called" overboost in continuous mode , not temporary.... with a 1psi boost over and above. At the same time, all ECU alarms & engine protection features will remain unchanged.

Put me down for a Stage 1 chip!
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post Nov 27 2008, 09:43 AM
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QUOTE(yayou @ Nov 26 2008, 01:12 PM) *
The stage 1 (pump premium gas) reflash will only involve higher boost in continuous mode.
The different maps are currently being tested. Final maps will be made available only in January following extensive real world testing in the snow.

Since the stage 1 only involves allowing the already there overboost to stay in continous mode, would it be safe to assume there needs little or no testing for this. Therefore the possability it can be had sooner than January? Those words are directly from my thumb. smile.gif

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I would be interested in the stage 1 reprogram, let me know when they are available.
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post Nov 27 2008, 01:22 PM
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QUOTE(Arctic88 @ Nov 27 2008, 12:48 PM) *
I would be interested in the stage 1 reprogram, let me know when they are available.

Hey everyone, lets not turn this thread into a "Me Too" thread. I'm not singling anybody out. If you are interested watch this thread and when Yayou is ready to program we will be the first to know. biggrin.gif


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<<<< Rubs hands together in anticipation!!!!!!


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QUOTE(Snobeeler @ Nov 27 2008, 02:22 PM) *
Hey everyone, lets not turn this thread into a "Me Too" thread. I'm not singling anybody out. If you are interested watch this thread and when Yayou is ready to program we will be the first to know. biggrin.gif


I will sure let everyone know. Testing goes beyond performance and I want to make sure all is 100% right.... including, as an example, compatibility with Digital Wrench after the various reflash versions..... want to cover all angles...


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post Nov 28 2008, 09:34 PM
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QUOTE(Snobeeler @ Nov 27 2008, 09:43 AM) *
Since the stage 1 only involves allowing the already there overboost to stay in continous mode, would it be safe to assume there needs little or no testing for this. Therefore the possability it can be had sooner than January? Those words are directly from my thumb. smile.gif


There is not a lot of time between now and January. yayou has not had many reversals in his other modifications, due to a lot of testing and careful review of the results. I would explect him to remain conservative in the future, it has worked so well in the past.

In the meantime, get your sleds ready for more power and speed.

Work on ventilation, clutching, belt quality, suspension and handling. Improving instrumentation would also be worthwhile. Refresh your chaincase oil and verify chain and track adjustment. You have put in fresh plugs for the season, right?


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I have had an 07 Switchback that has had this done to it since December of 06. The fuel injection was completly remapped and boost was turned up around 20psi. Polaris enginers told me that the sled was putting out 180hp. Anyone I have told just tells me that I am crazy and there is know way my sled could make this kind of power. I have put about 2000 miles on it with no problem what so ever. Now that this has come out everyone is on board.
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post Nov 30 2008, 09:04 AM
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Good for you e-rod. Would you kindly share details around your gearing and primary clutch weights and maximum rpm.... this would dissipate skepticism for sure -- net power output correlates to the information I am inviting you to share.

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QUOTE(e-rod @ Nov 30 2008, 12:39 AM) *
I have had an 07 Switchback that has had this done to it since December of 06. The fuel injection was completly remapped and boost was turned up around 20psi. Polaris enginers told me that the sled was putting out 180hp. Anyone I have told just tells me that I am crazy and there is know way my sled could make this kind of power. I have put about 2000 miles on it with no problem what so ever. Now that this has come out everyone is on board.



e-rod:

I would be interested in having my FST remapped, could you help me get this done? and approximately how much would it cost?

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QUOTE(dofo1 @ Dec 1 2008, 10:08 AM) *
e-rod:

I would be interested in having my FST remapped, could you help me get this done? and approximately how much would it cost?

THANKS

Beware, e-rod has made 13 posts on this site. It is very questionable at this point to its accuracy. I will be waiting for his reply to Yayou's question to him.

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QUOTE(Snobeeler @ Dec 1 2008, 02:11 PM) *
Beware, e-rod has made 13 posts on this site. It is very questionable at this point to its accuracy. I will be waiting for his reply to Yayou's question to him.

I did see/read somewhere that there was a ECU program from Polaris for race sleds only running on 93 or better octane but it was not available to the general public and would not perform very well on regular pump gas or on the trails. It was setup for asphalt. I cannot confirm or deny the report just that it sounded legit and it was out there. I'm waiting for Yayou's myself wink.gif
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